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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.waynejohn.com/web-site-idea-for-urban-explorers/comment-page-1/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>feenx - I know some may see your comment as negative and harsh, but I just want to say that appreciate what you have said.  I&#039;ve been holding myself back from screaming at the top of my lungs all the things that I see wrong, and that people allow to continue day after day.  I&#039;m slowly  learning to take a different approach and try to lead people to my way of thinking, allowing them to make that leap themselves.  No one wants to be pushed in any direction, they need to make that happen themselves, for themselves.

&quot;In fact, I&#039;m surprised more people&#039;s breath doesn&#039;t stink from the amount of shit that comes outa their mouth&quot; --Even when their breathe doesn&#039;t stink though, you can still tell if you look for the right clues. :)  Love it!

Thanks for swinging back by feenx, and if you ever start going off the deep end, I&#039;ll be there to smack you upside the head and help you to get your bearings again.  Cheers my friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>feenx &#8211; I know some may see your comment as negative and harsh, but I just want to say that appreciate what you have said.  I&#8217;ve been holding myself back from screaming at the top of my lungs all the things that I see wrong, and that people allow to continue day after day.  I&#8217;m slowly  learning to take a different approach and try to lead people to my way of thinking, allowing them to make that leap themselves.  No one wants to be pushed in any direction, they need to make that happen themselves, for themselves.</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, I&#8217;m surprised more people&#8217;s breath doesn&#8217;t stink from the amount of shit that comes outa their mouth&#8221; &#8211;Even when their breathe doesn&#8217;t stink though, you can still tell if you look for the right clues. <img src='http://www.waynejohn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Love it!</p>
<p>Thanks for swinging back by feenx, and if you ever start going off the deep end, I&#8217;ll be there to smack you upside the head and help you to get your bearings again.  Cheers my friend!</p>
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		<title>By: feenx</title>
		<link>http://www.waynejohn.com/web-site-idea-for-urban-explorers/comment-page-1/#comment-803</link>
		<dc:creator>feenx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FUCK the lines! &quot;lines&quot; are created by people who refuse to see a viewpoint or listen to an opinion outside of their own. An opinion or viewpoint is just that. In today&#039;s society where everyone needs to be politically correct lest we somehow lessen a person&#039;s value by the words that come out of our mouth we have successfully turned ourselves into ultra sensitive excuse living babies. 

e.g. My family is all overweight, so there&#039;s nothing I can do about it. 
e.g. I grew up with alcoholics, I don&#039;t know any other way.
e.g. The trauma I&#039;ve been through is too hard to recover from.
e.g. Times are tough, and I will always struggle. 

And on and on and ON. 

The bottom lines is, when someone TRULY WANTS to change, they do. Otherwise it&#039;s all just a waste of breath. In fact, I&#039;m surprised more people&#039;s breath doesn&#039;t stink from the amount of shit that comes outa their mouth. 

Humans have a great power about them, ALL humans. The problem is few actually choose to recognize and use it. 

Call it wha you want, karma, reap what you sow, the law of attraction...they all boil to one, simple, fact: causality. Cause and affect. If one refuses to dig within themselves for the solution, which includes accepting help offered, than they will forever be entangled in their own negative web.

If I ever get too sensitive to have someone give me a perverbial slap upside the head, well then shame on me.

I personally think it&#039;s a great idea, and kudos for thinking of it. If there&#039;s anything I can do to help make it happen, you let me know. 

feenx
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FUCK the lines! &#8220;lines&#8221; are created by people who refuse to see a viewpoint or listen to an opinion outside of their own. An opinion or viewpoint is just that. In today&#8217;s society where everyone needs to be politically correct lest we somehow lessen a person&#8217;s value by the words that come out of our mouth we have successfully turned ourselves into ultra sensitive excuse living babies. </p>
<p>e.g. My family is all overweight, so there&#8217;s nothing I can do about it.<br />
e.g. I grew up with alcoholics, I don&#8217;t know any other way.<br />
e.g. The trauma I&#8217;ve been through is too hard to recover from.<br />
e.g. Times are tough, and I will always struggle. </p>
<p>And on and on and ON. </p>
<p>The bottom lines is, when someone TRULY WANTS to change, they do. Otherwise it&#8217;s all just a waste of breath. In fact, I&#8217;m surprised more people&#8217;s breath doesn&#8217;t stink from the amount of shit that comes outa their mouth. </p>
<p>Humans have a great power about them, ALL humans. The problem is few actually choose to recognize and use it. </p>
<p>Call it wha you want, karma, reap what you sow, the law of attraction&#8230;they all boil to one, simple, fact: causality. Cause and affect. If one refuses to dig within themselves for the solution, which includes accepting help offered, than they will forever be entangled in their own negative web.</p>
<p>If I ever get too sensitive to have someone give me a perverbial slap upside the head, well then shame on me.</p>
<p>I personally think it&#8217;s a great idea, and kudos for thinking of it. If there&#8217;s anything I can do to help make it happen, you let me know. </p>
<p>feenx</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.waynejohn.com/web-site-idea-for-urban-explorers/comment-page-1/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex - Why thank you so much!  That&#039;s very kind of you to say that.

I just had to laugh at the way you ended that conversation with those people pushing their religion.  Classic, and I&#039;ll need to remember that for my own use someday.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex &#8211; Why thank you so much!  That&#8217;s very kind of you to say that.</p>
<p>I just had to laugh at the way you ended that conversation with those people pushing their religion.  Classic, and I&#8217;ll need to remember that for my own use someday.  <img src='http://www.waynejohn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by the ol&#039; Penguin! You seem a very thoughtful, motivated fellow. Looking forward to future posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by the ol&#8217; Penguin! You seem a very thoughtful, motivated fellow. Looking forward to future posts!</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Demeur - Thank you for your opinion on this.  When I was growning up, I used to hang out in the park and speak with people that were homeless.  I&#039;d actually hang out with them and some became friends.  If my mother ever found out back then, she would have had a conniption fit.  But from that I realized then that they were no different than anyone else...some have just hit a rut in life and were struggling to get by and get back on the horse to ride again.

Well, with this idea now on the Internet for anybody to see, perhaps someone could bake this into a viable means to help out.  That&#039;s all that was intended after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Demeur &#8211; Thank you for your opinion on this.  When I was growning up, I used to hang out in the park and speak with people that were homeless.  I&#8217;d actually hang out with them and some became friends.  If my mother ever found out back then, she would have had a conniption fit.  But from that I realized then that they were no different than anyone else&#8230;some have just hit a rut in life and were struggling to get by and get back on the horse to ride again.</p>
<p>Well, with this idea now on the Internet for anybody to see, perhaps someone could bake this into a viable means to help out.  That&#8217;s all that was intended after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Demeur</title>
		<link>http://www.waynejohn.com/web-site-idea-for-urban-explorers/comment-page-1/#comment-799</link>
		<dc:creator>Demeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne
I can tell you from first hand experience that there is no easy solution to the problem. Some are homeless from job loss, divorce or illness. Some are mentally ill or drug or alcohol dependent. The lucky ones and those who have educations normally are able to get back on their feet in less than a year. The big problem here is that so much funding has been cut from the help programs that trying to hook them up with what&#039;s left of social agencies is almost a waste of time. Most people on the street already know where to go just by asking others in the same position. Food banks hand out a list of help agencies, but as I said before these agencies have had their funds cut and are experiencing problems from rising fuel costs. The real issue here is raising money for the agencies. There&#039;s the red cross which had to borrow money to help the flood victims in Iowa. The United Way,I haven&#039;t checked on them lately as to how they&#039;re doing and the Salvation Army who&#039;s donations were down a bit from years past.
So I think the real issue here is figuring out how to set up a type of business model to get the funds and support charities whether local or national. In a down economy that will be difficult.
I applaud your effort though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne<br />
I can tell you from first hand experience that there is no easy solution to the problem. Some are homeless from job loss, divorce or illness. Some are mentally ill or drug or alcohol dependent. The lucky ones and those who have educations normally are able to get back on their feet in less than a year. The big problem here is that so much funding has been cut from the help programs that trying to hook them up with what&#8217;s left of social agencies is almost a waste of time. Most people on the street already know where to go just by asking others in the same position. Food banks hand out a list of help agencies, but as I said before these agencies have had their funds cut and are experiencing problems from rising fuel costs. The real issue here is raising money for the agencies. There&#8217;s the red cross which had to borrow money to help the flood victims in Iowa. The United Way,I haven&#8217;t checked on them lately as to how they&#8217;re doing and the Salvation Army who&#8217;s donations were down a bit from years past.<br />
So I think the real issue here is figuring out how to set up a type of business model to get the funds and support charities whether local or national. In a down economy that will be difficult.<br />
I applaud your effort though.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.waynejohn.com/web-site-idea-for-urban-explorers/comment-page-1/#comment-798</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gary, I do apologize if I have offended, I am not about offending anyone, but I always seem to have that issue from time to time. Perhaps that was a bit rude, but I don&#039;t see it that way...why?  I dunno...perhaps I&#039;m a bit thick skinned when it comes to those things as most insults to me just roll off and I don&#039;t give them much attention.

I have another one for you though.  You know those plastic bags that you get from the supermarket?  Like the one in American Beauty, where it simply floats in the wind and the charater states that sometimes life is so beautiful...or something like that?  Well, that bag....it&#039;s an Urban Jellyfish....

Old joke to some, new to others....

Getting back to the issue though, one thing I do need however is for people to tell me when I&#039;ve crossed the line.  Those lines are blurred for me I&#039;ve come to realize and I have the tendancy to cross them when I haven&#039;t even known I&#039;ve done it!  People get upset with me, and I have no idea why sometimes.

The real bummer is when I don&#039;t know, and people don&#039;t think to tell me.  I assume all is well and go about my day.

So, for the record, let me state here and now that this post is by no means a joke, and I wrote it in all seriousness to perhaps provide a means to aid those in the most serious of need.  Good intentions, perhaps a bad delivery on my part. 

I probably fit the social monger mold pretty well.  And that&#039;s a post for another day.  I should explore that a little.

I hope this hasn&#039;t tarnished our friendship.  If you wouldn&#039;t mind elaborating on how this affected you, perhaps I can gain some wisdom from that so I don&#039;t inadvertantly do this again.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gary, I do apologize if I have offended, I am not about offending anyone, but I always seem to have that issue from time to time. Perhaps that was a bit rude, but I don&#8217;t see it that way&#8230;why?  I dunno&#8230;perhaps I&#8217;m a bit thick skinned when it comes to those things as most insults to me just roll off and I don&#8217;t give them much attention.</p>
<p>I have another one for you though.  You know those plastic bags that you get from the supermarket?  Like the one in American Beauty, where it simply floats in the wind and the charater states that sometimes life is so beautiful&#8230;or something like that?  Well, that bag&#8230;.it&#8217;s an Urban Jellyfish&#8230;.</p>
<p>Old joke to some, new to others&#8230;.</p>
<p>Getting back to the issue though, one thing I do need however is for people to tell me when I&#8217;ve crossed the line.  Those lines are blurred for me I&#8217;ve come to realize and I have the tendancy to cross them when I haven&#8217;t even known I&#8217;ve done it!  People get upset with me, and I have no idea why sometimes.</p>
<p>The real bummer is when I don&#8217;t know, and people don&#8217;t think to tell me.  I assume all is well and go about my day.</p>
<p>So, for the record, let me state here and now that this post is by no means a joke, and I wrote it in all seriousness to perhaps provide a means to aid those in the most serious of need.  Good intentions, perhaps a bad delivery on my part. </p>
<p>I probably fit the social monger mold pretty well.  And that&#8217;s a post for another day.  I should explore that a little.</p>
<p>I hope this hasn&#8217;t tarnished our friendship.  If you wouldn&#8217;t mind elaborating on how this affected you, perhaps I can gain some wisdom from that so I don&#8217;t inadvertantly do this again.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I walked myself about 360 degrees emotionally reading this post----and all I can say is--you sure got a weird sense of humor---gonna have to list you under &quot;Social Mongers&quot;---thats an ecletic group of people who are independent, sacralegious, agitators, who get bored easily so are constantly putting up social engineering suggestions to keep Society on they&#039;re toes.  Its a good thing I realized quickly your post was made with tongue in cheek-----&quot;Urban Explorers&quot;---oooh thats a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I walked myself about 360 degrees emotionally reading this post&#8212;-and all I can say is&#8211;you sure got a weird sense of humor&#8212;gonna have to list you under &#8220;Social Mongers&#8221;&#8212;thats an ecletic group of people who are independent, sacralegious, agitators, who get bored easily so are constantly putting up social engineering suggestions to keep Society on they&#8217;re toes.  Its a good thing I realized quickly your post was made with tongue in cheek&#8212;&#8211;&#8221;Urban Explorers&#8221;&#8212;oooh thats a good one.</p>
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